1st February 2015
Interview: Killian Fox
Photographs: Yousef Eldin
1st February 2015
Interview: Killian Fox
Photographs: Yousef Eldin
She lives in a two-floor flat in London Fields with her dogs Millie and Kodi. The first thing you see going in is Uyen’s gleaming new kitchen, which has replaced a cramped cooking area upstairs. Spacious, functional, bookended by a massive fridge, it comes in handy when 30-odd people are coming to dinner every week. It opens onto a more homely living area at the back with a long wooden table and benches – and a little stone garden where guests sit when the weather is warm.
When we visit, Uyen is preparing dinner for 28 but still finds time to whip us up a five-course lunch. First we talk about her life and career over a pot of ginger tea, then she takes us shopping – to Broadway Market for fish, to the local Vietnamese supermarkets for vegetables and rice. She seems a little shy at first but that impression quickly fades as she takes control in the kitchen – enlisting us to peel taro stems and shred chicken – and serves up an extraordinary, multifaceted meal in 90 minutes flat.
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Five or six. It was a really hard time. People were starving because of the trade sanctions and millions died of poverty. My mum had to sell banh mi on the streets and my grandmother set up a café selling noodle soups, just to earn enough for us to eat. My family were all thrown into concentration camps – or I should say “re-education camps”. We were there for three months, but my uncle spent two years in a tiny little room with 200 people and just one handful of salt and rice to eat each day.
After many attempts my father escaped by boat. He was rescued by the British and shipped over to England. He got us refugee citizenship in Britain but could only take me, my mum and my brother. My father lives in America now; we stayed here.
My mum. She didn’t cook at all when she was growing up in Vietnam, but when we came to England she craved Vietnamese food so much that she taught herself. We didn’t have any money, but in Vietnamese cuisine you can make really tasty things from very cheap ingredients.
Yes, it’s all from her palate, but what my mum cooks is really traditional. Vietnamese people are very strict in their ways – “This has to be eaten with this herb, with this size noodle, and in this shape”. I’d get bored if I cooked traditional things all the time, so I throw in lots of different influences.
My mother told me how to make caramelised sardines in coconut and tomato soup with sea bass. When I did it, I was like ‘Yes yes yes!’
Not until I was in my 20s. My mother didn’t let me help out in the kitchen when I was younger – she doesn’t let you do stuff! The first time I cooked something really good was in university. Me and my friend got a student loan and ran off to New York, but then I missed my mum’s cooking so much so I called her up and she told me how to make caramelised sardines in coconut and tomato soup with sea bass. When I did it, I was like “Yes yes yes!”
I had loads of friends who kept coming around for dinner. It was nice to start with but after a while I was really out of pocket, so I started charging people. Then I thought I’d start blogging about food, just for fun, and it snowballed. It was all an accident. I thought I’d just do one dinner, but it’s still going five years later.
I didn’t mind at all because I’m quite a sociable person (as well as an unsociable person). And I had a boutique [a clothes shop in Covent Garden called Leluu] for nine years that was like my house, so I was used to people coming in and out. It’s much better now that I’ve built a kitchen and a bathroom downstairs – everyone is contained down here. It’s nice to have a bit of private space.
If the weather’s good enough to sit in the garden, there can be 40, but usually it’s 25 to 30. I did have 56 once.
Clean up as you go along, otherwise things will get on top of you. I try to prep everything before cooking and get as much as possible done in advance so I can spend time with guests. In general, take your time, do one thing at a time and keep things simple.
I’ve thought about it, and a few projects have fallen through. But actually I don’t know if I really need to. This way [doing a supper club] I have time do lots of other things.
I tend to go every year – usually to the south. My cousin and I tried to go north once but we couldn’t eat the food. There’s a massive conflict between northern and southern Vietnamese cuisine – but I think the northerners secretly prefer the southerners’ food [laughs].
Yes, but I’m not a massive breakfast person; often I don’t eat until lunch. I always have stock in the fridge, so I’m always having noodle soup. It’s the easiest thing to pull together. If you poach a chicken, you can survive on it for a whole week. For dinner, I usually like to eat something Italian or British.
I always have stock in the fridge, so I’m always having noodle soup. It’s the easiest thing to pull together. If you poach a chicken, you can survive on it for a whole week
Oh yeah. My favourite thing in the world is just spaghetti pomodoro with lots of Parmesan. Or risotto.
When I’m on my own? A couple of hours.
I really do – I think I’m a bit addicted. I love playing around with things. Recently I’ve been making flavoured salt using dried herbs. And I’ve been making a lot of frozen yoghurts and ice creams with seasonal fruit, such as mango and avocado (which is treated as a fruit in Vietman). I also cook quite well for the dogs. They get fresh chicken and vegetables and pasta with rice.
Actually they really like dog food – they love a bit of Cesar – but they hardly ever get it.
There’s always some leftover wine for risotto. There’s got to be parmesan and butter, although I usually keep the butter I’m using outside. And there’s always loads of noodle soup stocks – I keep them in bottles in the door.
Everybody always asks that, but I don’t have one. I can’t really eat Vietnamese food that’s not cooked at home.
For more info, see www.uyenluu.com
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